With N date code manufactured in 1942. This was the first of the Llama pistols made and for some reason was later given the designation of model IV. The early versions of these were black in color and the "US" appears to be in a different font than the alpha-numeric characters that make up the rest of the numbers. Check the sticker label on the warranty card. Llama IIIA- Series 2 variation 1 .380 acp, locked breech, 165mm overall length with two vents in the rib. Marlin Firearms. Here we can see that the magazine floorplate along with the bottomof the backstrap of the pistol has been stamped with 'MADE IN SPAIN'. Once site gave a differant mark for Gustav Genschow and coompany of Berlin an ammunition manufacturer who also made some rifles, mostly.22 Another site suggested that it might be the mark of the Spanish manufaturer, but that mark does not appear on most of the small frame Llamas that I have seen. Llama 32 Serial Number Lookup The photograph on the left is a picture of the right side of the receiver just above the trigger. Piotti. Left side has some marking and then the letter D I believe that is the year marking for 1931. It has a lanyard ring, arched mainspring housing and checkered wood grips with no Llama medallion. Early versions of this gun were marked as Military and Police on the right side with 9mm Bergman 38 Superon the front of the slide. LePage Pocket Automatic Mre. 330 7.65 mm. Not complaining but I'm curious why this got moved since the my Llama is a 1911 design. Browning caliber, original blowback style, dating from about 193'31934, first issued without model designation, with factory catalog designation No. Parabellum, 9 mm. This gun appears to be one made the third year they made them. [ : i^! Given this, I could assume my Llama was made in 1971. Mod. The cost is $175.00 for custom serial numbers on Guardian pistols and $150 for Mini-Revolvers. I I I I'l'i I'll I' I ' I H ( < I I I I l I ( I I I < 1 I I' I 'III. 528. Llama records appear to be non existent on any of the guns they sold or they are being held in seclusion. My last question: any idea on value? Estimated Value *Using 80% condition for calculating used Values. Visit the manufacturer's website and see if there is a way to do an S/N number check on the website and see what information is available. Somewhat later a variant pattern in 9 mm. The longer number is your serial number, incidentally. IV.-This was the original Llama pistol, dating from 1931-32, in 9 mm. This import stamp reads as follows, 'STOEGER INDUSTRIES' and then underneath that is 'S. The pistol was in beautiful shape, and I believe untouched. I know the basic history of Llama but I'm not sure exactly what model we have. The letters are scroll. This dates from about 1935 and was produced until about 1954. I'm trying to identify it. 'IlllillililT^ililfllllliHlil, 7.65 mm. : :ri i ! Model VII is chambered in 9mm Largo and marked 9mm /38. I have records of this gun being made as early as 1932 and as late as 1944. 1111 > 'i^lll >', fni'Tf-' ' , ' .f1.!!.!,. This is a post-World War II production. After WW II the serial # reads with barrel to the left (except for serial numbers on the fore strap thru 1957). 201524, Buluilliulillii;!' Let me know about the springs. lAtttl'WlfrllNO AMU SilCX FIUNGHN Ht JlHT MIING HN TC, Knife Throwing Techniques of the Ninja. Remington Firearms Looking mostly for the model IV, VII, VIand the Ruby 45 even as a parts gun but will consider anything. Winchester Rifle Serial Number Winchester Firearms Visit Winchester Lookup Website Similar to the Marlin lookup tool above (and provided by the same website) comes the Winchester lookup tool. Your gun doesn't have a serial number, because it was manufactured, before 1968. As follower of the group you will receive email notifications of events in the group. It was manufactured from about 1936 to 1954. XI.-This is a 9 mm. Tauler model P 9mm Have seen this gun listed as 38 Super. After the close of World War II certain models were dropped, grip safeties were added to the remaining models, and a .22 caliber pistol was introduced. 1 , imIm Miilii'iMiliinliiiiliinliiMlMl'liililimlllMllllillllilMliliilimli TmIi i'I i m 11 i i m I i i i Ii i m i m i m^I 1 i i Iii m Ii 11 il i i m( i m i i r i n I (111 Ii t u' 1 i m li i n ! ] VI may have been given to these pistols. In the picture above, the square is actually the letter 'D' but in this case, the edge of the die has left an impression on the pistols frame and the stamp looks like a square. The slide is marked "Llama Cal 45" on one side and "Gabilondo CIA VITORIA (Espana)" on the other. Ameba Ownd - . Introduced in 1996. Hopefully I'm in the right forum. Check the sticker label on the side of the . There are no Llama pistols designated as Models XII, XIII, and XIV as these designations have been reserved for and are used on the Llama revolvers. u < I, ' 1 1 ! 1911. 1911A1 Colt. You'll see the computer's serial number displayed beneath the text "SerialNumber". It was made prior to World War II only. Feb 06, 2013 Pilot. 1 From the top navigation bar on our website Click Search by Serial # Select a manufacturer Enter your equipment's serial number and click SEARCH 2 From the participating manufacturer page Enter your equipment's serial number and click SEARCH Available warranty information will also be shown! Custom 4S Grips and trigger and a full smoothing of the internal parts. Simply input the gun's serial number into the search field to see if your weapon is listed. The gun shown is a 1952. Llama Serial Number Lookup Llama Firearms , officially known as Llama-Gabilondo y Cia SA , was a Spanish arms company founded in 1904 under the name Gabilondo and Urresti . III and is merely a smaller version of that model (Fig. models of 1903, 1906, 1910, and 1922. VII, but in three calibers: 7.65 mm. This is a Proof House marking which may look a bit different on later guns. Post War serial numbers are all offset. This tells you the gun's maker. 14624. Just trying to help!! 175). 1911 Pistols manufactured for foreign Governments either in US or outside US. Colt 45 mags work and this one was equipped with a Meggar, Max I C/F - .45 cal compact frame 4 .340" barrel, parkerized, blue or tutone satin chrome frame and blue slide, Max II L/F large frame large capacity, parkerized, blue or tutone satin chrome frame and blue slide, MaxII C/F compact frame large capacity, parkerized ,blue or tutone satin chrome frame and blue slide. There are 3 on a typical commerical arm, and four on a typical military arm. Second Variant Humpback The second variant has the serial number on the left arm of the slide, near the front. Mod. | | 11111 tj 111111 1111111 ij 11111111111111. The frame was fitted with all of the Max I components. iflilimtT' ' f ^ I i lili n^ii i tlii Tt 11111 ti 1 ft i In i * i t Ii i iTn itlt^!!?! Model 82. Larry Well Larry, Thanks so much for the help! Hungarian 'Pistole Mod. Create your own unique website with customizable templates. I have now seen a second one made in 2001. This Llama pistol features a 5 1/8 inch barrel and has a fixed blade front sight and adjustable rear sight. : Spain Date Code Serialization. Safety is mounted on the slide and when activated, it moves the firing pin out of the reach of the hammer and locks it, then decocks the hammer and also disconnects the trigger bar. Llama model VII Military and Police - 5 1/16" barrel -9mm Largo and 38 acp. The frame is numbered in the normal manner for a gun made in 98 and you can see where the old serial number and proof marks were removed. You can e. Model VIII is chambered for the .38 Super. I recently purchased a used 12 ga. semi-auto "Luigi Francia (not Franchi) Brescia" per engraving on receiver and barrel. I am sorry it didn't keep them from going under. Any help with this would be very much appreciated. Libia Exported by Fab. A forum community dedicated to handgun owners and enthusiasts. My understanding is that at this time Gabilondo had 5 employees. I lost a gunbroker auction on a similarly marked.32 or.380, a couple months ago, but can not find it in the advanced search so it might have been longer. I got interested in the baby Llamas because they were pretty well made minature 1911s. X. Mod. I have a.22, a.32 (both post war) and the.380 which dates to 1942-1943. I will change the designation on the database list. It has no dovetail for the rear sight and both sights are silver soldered on, so it almost has to be Llama made entirely. Proofs and made in Spain have been wiped in a refinish, along with most of the GC in an oval on the right side of the gun. Llama Model 1 (A-31 or. The LF which stands for long frame came in a variety of finishes, but never Stainless Steel as may be claimed. Work on a new design began in 1931 and culminated in 1932 with a Spanish patent issued on April 12th of that year. The right side says LLAMA "ESPECIAL". Mod. It is still in production. Ecuadorian Air Force Contract Llama .380 Micro Max. I had a guy offer me a llama 380 with three mags for $200. Gustav Genschow & Co, imported guns from Spain to be sold to Nazi party members and marked their guns with the Geco logo which is a large G with the eco inside it. A Note About Vintage Guns. Llama XI A - 9mm P - full size gun with 5" barrel . models of 1903, 1906, 1910, and 1922. iiull.l'%'lr. Somewhat later a variant pattern in 9 mm. III-A.-This post-World War II version of Mod. Mod. The serial number is pretty low: 607179 Above the serial number it says "STOEGER INDUSTRIES" Followed by "S.HACKENSACK, N.J" On the opposite side of the slide it reads: LLAMA- GABILONDO Y CIA VITORIA (ESPANA) Any help with this would be very much appreciated. 111 h 111 ' I ' I ' 11111 ' H | ' 1111111 ' 1111. I suppose in an effort to reduce costs they decided not to use the locked breech system found on earlier guns. T; I : t: I! Browning filed a law suit against Beristain for patent infringement but lost the suit in 1925 . Also, based on the fact there are no . II.-This 9 mm. However, factory literature of 1936-39 shows this model in .45 cal. The photograph on the left is a close up of the Llama logo that is found on both of the wood grips on this pistol. Largo (Bergmann) caliber. For pistols built before 1936 the mmarking would be: Gabilondo Y Cia Eloeibar(Espana) Cal 9MM/.380IN Llama, Llama Gabilondo Y Cia Eloeibar(Espana) Cal 9mm .380, The best source of data would a for a fee service run by the Blue Book of Gun valuses run it thru www.bluebookinc.com, Numrich Gun Parts Corporation
Largo/.38 ACP is identical to Mod. VII.-This pistol in 9 mm. X, with the addition of a grip safety, which was added immediately following World War II. On Windows 7, press Windows + R, type "cmd" into the Run dialog, and then press Enter. I 111 IJ . It was designed after the semi-automatic pistol. The 1914 Ruby in 7.65 - 9 shot with checkered wood grips as made for the French in WWI. i f t 11 t aTaf o iIt 1 *t t^TI tn I, No. 326 7.65 mm. VII.-This pistol in 9 mm. Could be more of them and more names as well, Max I L/F - Deluxe .45 cal. Largo (Bergmann) caliber. XI.-This is a 9 mm. iiull.l'%'lr. At the same time they wentto the blow back design for the IIIA also. Export designation 515A) Industria Armi Galesi Collebeato (Brescia), Italy Dated 1956 No. Blow back operated, 5 shot mag,2 3/8" barrel, 4 3/4" overall length, 13 3/4oz. Unlike the other Llama large frame guns this one is thinner at 3/4" in thickness and is actually comparable to the Star A or B in size. Mod. These fall in the serial number range between 200 and 300. Both the solid rib and the vent rib were used, Llama model -XI 9mm P. The first design had the W spring detent and possibly came with only lined wood grips asthat is the only way I have seen them. III.-This was a 9 mm. This gun had a change in the way the safety was made to the same look as the later model I above had. Personally, I am pleased with the Max series from Llama. Enter the serial number, without spaces or dashes, to search the database. I.-This was a 7.65 mm. Mod. ''I I'l'I'MJ [11 ' | 1 ' 11 M 11 ' | ' I ' 11 1 H. TmTfi'iiiiilit'li i ! Llama Firearms Serial Number Lookup Automatic pistols made by Gabilondo from 1914 to 1933 were based on Browning F.N. Eibar, Spain No. This is an importers stamp that is now required to be placed on firearms that have entered the U.S. Spanish Blue Steel. The serial number is 563842 which I *think* puts production somewhere around 1970-ish. *f j : 11: t i : ' : ' i?. That's when the feds demanded all guns, after '68, receive serial numbers. 36228, No. The double stack magazine holds 15 rounds plus one in the chamber. Another company did import them but they are not marked in any way. How to find Llama serial number on Llama guns.. this process and this procedure. I'll take and post photos if that will help. i i ' . It looks like all but the 25-2 are sporting their original stocks. In 1931 it was decided to modernize their line by undertaking the . s U i'*i* V k I ! Most likely there are many out there but this type of gun was never put in German records or marked with Nazi marks. IV and is, therefore, the original Llama pistol, manufacture of which dates from 1932. With this importers mark, we now know that this Llama model IX-A came in to the U.S. Sorry for the delay in getting back to you. Beristain y Cia of Eibar, between the years of 1916 and 1920 received patents for improvements to the Browning 1910, patent No. Above the serial number it says "STOEGER INDUSTRIES"
with a 5.25 inch barrel - Custom 4Sgrips. Jger Pistole Jger and Co. Suhl, Germany No. span stylecolor: 000000Do you want to learn the art of throwing knives? Any ideas? You still pay the normal price, our commission comes from their profit, so you have nothing to lose, while we have something to gain. so on. 'Liberty Patent' Retolaza Hermanos Eibar, Spain No. No Made in Spain stamped on them. Shortly after the production of this first model, a blowback style based upon the external shape of the Colt-Browning was introduced. until they exhausted the alphabet, then they started with "A*2" and This is the admission proof mark that appears on Spanish handguns submitted to the official government proof house in Eibar Spain after July 9, 1931. Leonhardt H. M. Gering and Co. Arnstadt, Germany No. My wife has no sentimental attachment to it so we'd like to possibly sell or trade. It is dangerous and illegal to ship a loaded firearm through the mail. according to the serial number. Check the Serial Number data field in the BIOS Main menu. A Model X-1 has been noted, but details are unknown. In 1931 it was decided to modernize their line by undertaking the manufacture of the external hammer, recoil-operated system originally designed by Browning and used by Colt and the Fabrique . If this was a coin, it would no doubt raise its value, but I doubt if it did that for this pistol. Both are identical to the Llama Mod. No one seems to know anything. During the Spanish Civil war all of the gun makers were within the Republican (Basque) held territory, even Astra who was actually on the side of the Nationalist or on the side with the Catholic Church actually. 11 r 1^11M ! It is marked .38 caliber rather than 9 mm. For instance, my. To this weapon was given the trade name Llama" which is the name for currently made Gabilondo pistols. Auction: 14505864 LSB#: 170816OQ08 Title: , C&R 9mm Largo (.38 ACP) Make: Llama Gabilondo y Cia S.A. The problem I am having is that the D says its made in 1931 but the pictures for this gun say they started manufacture in 1933. I have come to the conclusion that my pistol is a X-A and not a X. I have read that the Model X-A had a grip safety added when production of this model began in 1954. 331 7.65 mm. You still pay the normal price, our commission comes from their profit, so you have nothing to lose, while we have something to gain. . ! ' I haveseen another like it. The Logo on the grips is BC not GB for Gregorio Bolumburu as some report it to be. The pistols these 4 companies, Armera Elgoibaressa y Cia, Echealasa y Vincinai y Cia, , Hijos de Angel Echeverria y Cia, produced were not of the Gabilondo quality but were accepted by the French government. There have been reports that this gun ceased production in 35 because of faults, but it did not. The second series had the detent spring tube with coil spring and used the same frame. 332 7.65 mm. By searching for the rifle serial number (search box ' Rifle Serial Number ' above) By using the SwissWaffen.com all rifle serial number list page or the all rifle serial number PDF. In 1931 it was decided to modernize their line by undertaking the manufacture of the external hammer, recoil-operated system originally designed by Browning and used by Colt and the Fabrique Nationale. Automatic pistols made by Gabilondo from 1914 to 1933 were based on Browning F.N. After that, when the safety is disengaged , the gun will be ready to fire the first shot in Double Action. Parabellum caliber was produced. L. Selbstlader' Fr. The gun shown below has the early slide markings on the left side and was made just before my M&P model VII which has the later slide markings. : :ri i ! Earlier issues had a lanyard ring at bottom of left side of the grip frame, but this ring was omitted in later issues and the grip pieces were redesigned. Parabellum caliber with a variant style of grip frame and hammer and has no grip safety. It came to me directly from Spain via my importer. If springs in the.32 and.380 problems as well? This is in addition to the retail price of the gun and shipping costs. Apparently derived from the 1900 Model Mannlicher. Barrel length is 5 1/2" This gun has an internal extractor like the Colt. The guns were actually purchased by Les Ouvriers Reunies and from there went to the French gvernment. 3 <1r~ijT-iI '7 I I ri I ,'lfTT'l U| .Hl .Tin irMWi n ft j 111 iTiTTln 1 r 11 Tl Mt 1111 f 11 ill t tl< iTf la 111 l*i>l I ill 1M11 Ii f Inl7i tl I ill iTTlnill III >i I iliiftillllirtaiBlln llllTll 11111 III I 'illilli, No. This In 1954 the XA changed to have the rounded back on the frame and grips as well as a magazine that was large base. It could have been used in a crime and dumped $ 399.00 For sale is a Llama Especial semi-automatic pistol in .380 ACP. During the period of 1992 to 2005they struggled with a lack of sales causing them to have to takethe company public in 2002 to keep the doors open. Llama is now the trade name for handguns that are manufactured by Bersa in Argentina. The Arms Collectors website offers a lookup for Marlin serial numbers. The letter for the date code with the asteriskon top is still in use to this very day. Grips Compatible with Llama XV 22RF XA IIIA 32 380 ACP (Reproduction Work) Made & Shipped from Thailand. I, to which no model number was originally assigned. Llama Model II - .380mm Production started in 1933 and lasted thru 1954. Enter the serial number (no spaces) of your firearm and click on Search to identify your model. Llama XI B - 9mm P _ Commander size with 4.340" barrel. XV.-This is a .22 caliber (Long Rifle) pistol which follows the same general design as the other recent Llama models. XV.-This is a .22 caliber (Long Rifle) pistol which follows the same general design as the other recent Llama models. Llama Llama means Flame in Spanish, but they used the animal as their logo as well. Jun 24, 2012. It resembles the Star model H. This particular gun was not marked Model Police on the right side of the slide. Stoger as a firearms importer went out of buisness long ago, The name is used today by a publishing company. I ! Big Sean Finally Famous Deluxe Edition Zip Sharebeast. Pic isn't very good but the best I can do at the time. It will cross reference the date code Llama Pistol Series. Here are a couple pics of it, I can post serial numbers if they will help. 'F. 508, 11.! Your help is appreciated. The photograph on the right is of the butt or heel of the pistol with the magazine inserted. III is distinguished by the addition of the grip safety but otherwise is the same as Mod. Also, the last two digits after the dash (-) in the serial number should correspond with the code. Any help on the mark would be appreciated. This pistol is still made. Feb 2, 2021. series guy said: 1980, 1997, 1980, and 1996. This is a Ruby 7 shot 7.65 mm made in 1928 with a B date code. Does your slide say 'Especial' on it? Website by Hudson. III is distinguished by the addition of the grip safety but otherwise is the same as Mod. Although mine has a date code of V (1951), it has a grip safety.