. This load in a 5-1/2 Ruger New Model Flat-Top clocks out at 1,333 fps. Hornady jacketed over 5gr. I'm just putting together a short list to get me going. This is a good load. gunmans right on i have used the old stand by blue dot for mag loads back when i loaded a lot of 357 mag. Pennsylvania Game Commission, State Agency: I do like H110 in the .357 and .44 in both the revolvers and the carbines. Aside from your .357 loads, you can fire several others in it, including the .38 Short and Long Colt and the .38 Special. Reloading Manual shows that 13.9 grains of H110 will drive Deployed military should use stateside address. While the Colt Model 601 was the first AR-15 to be mass-produced, there were several design variations that came before during the platform's development. Contest open to U.S. residents only. Employees and agents of Publishers Development Corp. are not eligible. NEI #200.358GC. These bullets have a cannelure. But it may depend on your definition of 'full power'. Here's a subsonic load in the 357 Magnum utilizing a 158 grain moly coated RN cast lead bullet and HS-6 powder at the rangeHS-6 is not one of the more popular powders, but it has good use in all the Magnum pistol calibers as well as the 9mm, 40 and 45. Contest open to U.S. residents only. One of my favorite heavy bullets is the 200-gr. Box 488, Escondido, CA 92033. . To protect the privacy and security of winners, names will not be made public. JSP, .357 with JHP, .357 with JSP. Originally Posted by Hick. First time using lead cast bullets. The .357 Mag is one of the most flexible handgun rounds. I also wanted a better finish than the plain stained buttstock and forearm so I had Milt put a real finish on the wood. +1 on Hellbents slant on Titegroup in the .357 . Instead I recommend switching your powder load to Blue Dot and loading up a 180 grain lead bullet. Upgrade efforts paused for now. There are now 25 states with so-called Constitutional carry and Florida appears to be approaching permitless carry, which translates to more citizens S&W Set The Bar For Magnum Handgun Performance 50 Years Ago. same bullets to a MV of 1409 fps. Your mileage may vary. When customers ask us which powder is the best, the short answer is always "it depends!" . It won't give velocities QUITE as impressive as H110 or IMR-4227, but it can be started at 10% under max . Feb 15, 2017. Winners will be notified by certified mail on official letterhead. )(2009 Note: Some of these loads are from 1996 and in the passing years the powder companies have reduced their maximum loads particularly ones that have been around a long time like Unique. For most of my big-bore sixgun loads I use straight wheelweights for loads under 1,100 fps; however, with the smaller diameter .357 Magnum bullets I prefer a harder alloy and normally mix lead and type metal in equal amounts. vtducrider said: Not looking for full power 357mag loads. $36.52. 07-24-2009, 06:32 PM #12. claybird. HP-38. Titegroup, 100% burnt at 1.65 inches of barrel length. It has great guns in current production, with various styles (you can even get a .357 magnum 1911!) (I) Giveaway ends May 31, 2023. Box 488, Escondido, CA 92033. 3. To simplify for conversation's sake, I generally regard loads as low, mid or full and further specify if the context warrants, e.g. Is the .357 Magnum a rifle cartridge? Cowboy Action Shooting .357 load. guys", but have not provided top accuracy in my .357 handguns. It is a good solid gun but I made a few personal changes. Any of the recommendations here are spot on, but I will say I've always used Unique and 2400 for .357's, buy it by the 4lb container, never had issues with metering, but I'm sure it depends on the powder measure your using. While the revolver divisions of IPSC and IDPA are dwindling in participation numbers, theyre extremely rewarding to focus on. Discussion: Universal and Unique are good for lighter bullets, but if you want sufficiently flat for small game hunting. Contest void where prohibited by law. HP38 is probably as fast as I would go, but in my case, 10.1 grs. The versatility of loads for the .357 cartridge means that it excels as an all-purpose handgun round, suitable for just about every shooting activity imaginable: For recreational shooting, full-tilt .357 Magnum loads are pretty intense for extended sessions on both the hands and the wallet out of most revolvers. The revolver has fallen out of favour in Bullseye but it still makes a great centrefire gun, and one of handgunnings most accurate loadsthe 148 grain hollow based wadcutter with Bullseye powdersaw most of its use here. I'm not looking at any manuals , so hard for me to say what FPS , but for a 158 gr pill as you had asked about , maybe 1100 to 1150 .?? 357 Armour Piercing(no longer legal or available), 160 gr. H110 and 296 require Magnum primers and like to be loaded at the upper end. Box 488, Escondido, CA 92033. for quite some time. Fast Pistol Powder: Accurate #2 (My Favorite) Accurate #2 is an interesting powder in that it is one of the rare "low density" spherical powders. I have used Red Dot, Promo, W-231, HP-38, Titegroup, & Unique. Winners must respond within 30 days of receiving notification or an alternate winner will be selected. The same thing happened 20 years later with the new .44 Magnum and the Winchester Model 1892, which had originally been chambered in .44-40. If you do use it in your 357Mag revolver, could you do a simple test for us? grains of H110 powder will drive the 140 grain bullet to a MV of 1323 The faster it burns after ignition, the less unburnt powder and "muzzle flash" on shorter-barreled guns, and quicker velocity attainment on longer-barreled ones. I also want to reload .38's with it. Thanks for your patience. that can be adapted to all types of activity. If the loads work in the rifle barrel its almost a sure thing they will do fine in the sixgun, however it is almost imperative one uses either jacketed or hard cast gas-checked bullets in the rifle barrel. Clays, Universal, HP38, HS6 and H4895 are products of Hodgdon Powders. When using W231/HP38 in .357 magnum loads, you essentially build loads which can be fired in a .357 magnum as opposed to true full power actual .357 magnum ammunition. If you dont handload, fear notthe .357 is one of the easiest rounds to learn on. can also shoot all .38 Special ammunition. Mail-in entries accepted; send postcards (no envelopes) to: GUNS Magazine, GOM February 2023, P.O. Some people might think this is too little gun for a humane kill on a whitetail; this is misguided. Is a VERY GOOD powder for mid range .357 loads but would opt out on this one for hotter personal defense loads or hunting ammo . Commercial .38s make for light recoil, inexpensive .357 practice rounds. Maine Department of Inland Fisheries & Wildlife, State Agency: small game loads. Washington Department of Fish & Wildlife, State Agency: But, this isn't the best powder for 900 f/s loads. Oregon Department of Fish & Wildlife, State Agency: 32 Auto. Not only is this excellent accuracy, it is a . 6.4 gr. 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All right are Reserved Reload Ammo, Reloading The .45 ACP (Automatic Colt Pistol), 1,075 (plated, actual in 7 bbl revolver), 1,307 max (Enforcer load below is SWC + GC ), ,108 (as of 2008 HP38 & W231 are the same), 1,610 MAX a Commercial JSP load averages 1,503 fps, 1,208 Hi=1244, Lo=1179, ES=65 (good load). By signing up you agree to Guns.com's All kinds of projectiles, all kinds of usesall of them .357. Some of the components John uses for the .357 Magnum for leverguns. Terms and Conditions and Privacy Policy. Everything DocZeus says.For your K frame , I wouldn't push it to max. 5.5 to 5.8 grains of Titegroup always worked well for me with pretty much any jacketed or plated 158 gr. The Browning was dropped in 1986 but the Marlin and Rossi remain and we also have the .357 Magnum available in both 1873 and 1892 Winchesters, the Henry Big Boy and for a while, Ruger even offered their bolt action, five-shot, stainless steel Model 77/357. To protect the privacy and security of winners, names will not be made public. Alaska Department of Fish & Game, State Agency: 10mm Auto. SWC+GC, 160 gr. Winners will be notified by certified mail on official letterhead. Optimal accuracy? Employees and agents of Publishers Development Corp. are not eligible. New Mexico Department of Game & Fish, State Agency: I have been reloading SAFETY DATA SHEET. Winners will be notified by certified mail on official letterhead. For the 140 grain JHP the Left to right: 160 gr. NRA Member..SWCA Member..Semi-Retired, But Not Dead Yet. Montana Fish, Wildlife & Parks, State Agency: JHP, (WC= WadCutter, SWC= Semi-WadCutter, HP= Hollow Point, RN= Round Nose), SP=Soft Point, (JHP= Jacketed Hollow Point and if GC indicated, means Gas Check at bottom of lead bullet), (Note: These are near maximum loads, you should use 10% less to start. This powder has a low bulk density so it fills the case well to reduce free space in the same way as Trail Boss. Winchester #209 Primers for Shotshells. Securely hold 6 rounds of revolver ammunition and conveniently load two rounds at a time. I've been loading a 180gr. check out the. There are several good handgun powders for that use such as AA-1680, H-110 and 4227 and IMR 4427. To protect the privacy and security of winners, names will not be made public. Classic Browning Light Twelve Auto-5 Review: Busting Clays With the Old Humpback Shotgun. For the 158 grain JHP the MV I use 4.2 grs. section of the Speer Reloading Manual Number 14 BIANCHI Speed Strips - Pair. Handloading also lets you utilize a vast library of .38 Special loads, one of the .357s biggest perks. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. I use it in .38 Special, .357 Mag, 45 ACP and even light loads in .41 Mag. Vihtavuori provides load data for .38 Special, .357 Magnum, .44 Special, .44 Magnum and .45 Colt. Cartridges page. Epic 22 Pocket Pistol: The Beretta 71 Jaguar. Any thoughts? grain JHP with 583 ft. lbs. According to Quickload .357 data using a .357, 158, Sierra JSP FN 8340. ballistics tables call for a muzzle velocity of 1450 fps for the 125 Now this rifle is ready for use by several generations of our family. The minimum charge of WW296 (H-110 same stuff ) Winchester used to publish in the re-loading pamphlet was 14.5gr and SP Magnum primer, under a 158gr SWC. Sounds like you used a standard primer. If that works for you, forge onward. I have H110 for my 357 Magnum hot loads however, not recommended for lead bullets due to needing to keep the velocity down. Follow the reloading manuals precisely. I'm looking for a really strong suggestion for two different loads. 0 Comments. Alliant Powder Smokeless Powders. (IV) Winners must undergo a background check (if required) and comply with all other federal, state and local laws. W296 is slow burning and needs a case full to ensure complete ignition. Here are the features to watch out for. Like Jimbo said you'll do better with two powders than one. New Hampshire Fish & Game Department, State Agency: It burns much cleaner than Bull's Eye and gives great accuracy. I need to pick up projectiles for 38 and 357 for a 357 Ruger Revolver and a Rossi lever. JHP, 125 gr. ticket for many big game hunting applications and for defense in the What powder is best for reloading 357 magnum hunting loads, using 180gr bullets? Contest open to U.S. residents only. An alternative is the Buffalo Bore 180-grain hard-cast. personal loads where noted. I am used to lighter bullets for 38 SC and 9 Major but I see most of the people use heavier bullets in .357? I have found Winchester W231 Below, are three loaded rounds. I'll be picking some up in 2 weeks. Its not exact practice, but it wont bankrupt you to shoot them weekly. I had Milt Morrison slick up the action and take the trigger back to 3-1/2 lbs. It's a very fast powder so there's not alot of room between starting and max loads. Is it worth my effort in developing 357mag loads using this powder..wondering if it was to fast..I am using 158gr sierra JHP bullets. For a medium velocity load in .357 Magnum cases with 158-160 grain bullets at 1.58" OAL use these as minimum start loads and OK to increase a grain or so as needed to get best accuracy. Unique: Select A Caliber or Gauge Below To View Recipes. Associated taxes and fees are the responsibility of winners. These are good full power hunting loads. Gregory, just to give you an idea about Unique, I have loaded 357 mag with a 158 jacketed round to 7.5 grains using Winchester primers. My most-used load these days in a .357 Magnum sixgun is the Lyman #358156GC bullet over 14.0 grains of #2400. Although The High Road has attempted to provide accurate information on the forum, The High Road assumes no responsibility for the accuracy of the information. I am looking for a powder I can use for both lead/target loads for the 357 Magnum that I can also use for 38 Special loads. Deployed military should use stateside address. With standard primers it's a little lower velocity (more like 925). The "U.S. Rifle, Caliber .30, Model of 1903," better-known as the M1903 Springfield, has become one of the most popular U.S. military small arms to collect. IMR TrailBoss are products of IMR (formerly DuPont) Powder Company. It is suitable only for full power magnum handgun loads and .30 Carbine loads. Newer magnum cartridges eventually surpassed it in power, but Bullseye, 100% burnt at 2.56 inches of barrel length. John Wootters questions as to whether or not the .357 Magnum was a rifle cartridge is pretty much the same conclusion I came to many years ago. Although a lot of factory ammo for the .357 is loaded light in deference to all those 80 year old guns out there, a full power .357 S&W Mag with those light 125 grain bullets (remember, the cartridge was made for 158 grain bullets at a published velocity of 1500 f.p.s. Bestseller No. The powders that are considered "Magnum Powders" are: AA#9, Alliant 2400, W296/H110, both IMR & H4227, Ramshot Enforcer and VV N350. CCI primers. Delaware Division of Fish & Wildlife, State Agency: Not that a single charge would or could be bad, but, because it is so dense, combine that with say, your favorite Glock 22 with a heavy bullet and nowyou are going to have a problem. Cheers! The firearm hobby is a broad one, with many subdivisions of interest and activity. 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These days, thats saying quite a lot! This was written nearly 40 years ago and not much has changed. These Speer velocities Factory warranties may apply in some cases. I'm thinking Unique, but I'm not sure. All my .38/.357 guns love this load (S&W 642/Ruger Blackhawks/Ruger GP100/Marlin 1894 Cowboy). VihtaVuori Oy Company, reloading booklet